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Today Bret Johnson returns to the podcast. Earlier I interviewed Bret about the Push Journal, a product that he and his wife, Chalene Johnson, created. During that interview we talked about his gambling addiction, so today he’s back to talk about exactly how he and Chalene recovered financially after running up a debt of $500,000. This conversation takes you step-by-step through how they paid off the debt and built a life of financial freedom.